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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:33:33 +0200
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
To: <Free-VMS@lp.se>
Subject: hekla.free-vms.org
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:34:43 -0400
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On the FreeVMS webpage it says that developers can get accounts on
HEKLA.FREE-VMS.ORG. What's the procedure for that? I don't have any VAXen
here, and it's been a long time since i've been doing any VMS, need to get
re-accquanited. :-). Also, cross-platform development is a P.I.T.A. and it's
easier to write for VMS on VMS (I've got Linux boxes here).
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:15:18 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:15:11 +0200
Message-ID: <3528-Sat01Aug1998111511+0200-levitte@lp.se>
From: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <levitte@lp.se>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
In-Reply-To: <01bdbce4$2d467700$8f8903c7@dataweb> (noahp@altavista.net)
Subject: Re: hekla.free-vms.org
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From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
On the FreeVMS webpage it says that developers can get accounts on
HEKLA.FREE-VMS.ORG. What's the procedure for that? I don't have any VAXen
The procedure is to talk with me or Robert Nydahl
<nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lyator.liu.se>
The environment on it is almost ready. It's pretty much a bare-bones
VMS machine, with not too many extra utilities on, but I'm figuring that
will change with time.
--
R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannv. 38, I; S-168 35 Bromma; SWEDEN
Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; Cell: +46-708-20 09 64; Fax: +46-708-20 06 13
PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65
Check http://richard.levitte.org/ for my public key. bastard@bofh.se
"price, performance, quality. Choose any two you like"
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 14:15:52 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:15:54 -0400
Message-ID: <199808011215.IAA08708@harvey.cyclic.com>
From: Jim Kingdon <kingdonc@cyclic.com>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
In-Reply-To: <694-Fri31Jul1998140604+0200-levitte@lp.se> (message from Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker on Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:06:04 +0200)
Subject: Re: I'm around. CVS. [was: Re: Test. please ignore ...]
References: <694-Fri31Jul1998140604+0200-levitte@lp.se>
> VAXC$PATH is pretty damn confusing for those who haven't read the C
> reference manual too damn closely :-). (Just try to imagine how many
> times I've answered that one :-))
Uh, no it is a little hard for me to imagine.
You see, I have very little idea how many people are trying to use the
VMS port of CVS. I mean, I suppose I could go check how many people
are downloading the executables (last time I checked, a lot less than
other platforms), but even that only tells so much.
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 14:21:21 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:21:23 -0400
Message-ID: <199808011221.IAA08739@harvey.cyclic.com>
From: Jim Kingdon <kingdonc@cyclic.com>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980730162632.00917140@ebsmmfs001.ebs.ac.com> (Pradeep.Bashyal@ebs.ac.com)
Subject: Re: I'm around. CVS. [was: Re: Test. please ignore ...]
References: <009C9F26.EA6FDD7E.1@TMESIS.COM> <009C9F26.EA6FDD7E.1@TMESIS.COM> <3.0.5.32.19980730162632.00917140@ebsmmfs001.ebs.ac.com>
> Check out http://www.maccvs.org/ for a closer look.
The terminology can be confusing (mainly because two different people
independently took the name "MacCVS" and only later realized it).
This client is called "MacCVS Pro". Please do not confuse it with
MacCVS (also known as MacCVS/WinCVS) which is at
http://www.cyclic.com/cvs/soft-maccvs.html
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:32:56 +0200
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
To: <Free-VMS@lp.se>
Subject: mkfs
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:34:12 -0400
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Has somebody written a mkfs for ods2 that can run under Linux (to go with
the copying program)?
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 18:13:35 +0200
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
To: <Free-VMS@lp.se>
Subject: Free-VMS Name
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 12:14:53 -0400
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VINCE: Vincent is not Compaq (the Evil)! :-)
Regards,
Noah Paul
noahp@tiac.net
ICQ: 10949203
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 19:56:55 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:56:46 GMT
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To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: noahp@altavista.net (Noah Paul)
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: Free-VMS Name
(Not serious.)
>VINCE: Vincent is not Compaq (the Evil)! :-)
>
>Regards,
>Noah Paul
>noahp@tiac.net
>ICQ: 10949203
>
>
>
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Archive-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:36:54 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:36:47 +0200
Message-ID: <1410-Sat01Aug1998203647+0200-levitte@lp.se>
From: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <levitte@lp.se>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
In-Reply-To: <01bdbd67$841e95c0$8f8903c7@dataweb> (noahp@altavista.net)
Subject: Re: Free-VMS Name
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From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
VINCE: Vincent is not Compaq (the Evil)! :-)
Besides me not agreeing with you about Compaq (in connection with VMS,
the rest is another story :-)), that was pretty cute.
--
R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannv. 38, I; S-168 35 Bromma; SWEDEN
Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; Cell: +46-708-20 09 64; Fax: +46-708-20 06 13
PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65
Check http://richard.levitte.org/ for my public key. bastard@bofh.se
"price, performance, quality. Choose any two you like"
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Archive-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:32:49 +0200
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 21:32:06 -0400 (EDT)
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To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: noahp@altavista.net (Noah Paul)
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: Free-VMS Name
Speaking of Compaq, we should check to make sure they don't give us any
trouble about the "VMS" in "FreeVMS".
> From: "Noah Paul" <noahp@altavista.net>
>
> VINCE: Vincent is not Compaq (the Evil)! :-)
>
>Besides me not agreeing with you about Compaq (in connection with VMS,
>the rest is another story :-)), that was pretty cute.
>
>--
>R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannv. 38, I; S-168 35 Bromma; SWEDEN
> Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; Cell: +46-708-20 09 64; Fax: +46-708-20 06 13
> PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65
> Check http://richard.levitte.org/ for my public key. bastard@bofh.se
>
> "price, performance, quality. Choose any two you like"
>
>
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Archive-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:01:03 +0200
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:00:56 MET-1MET DST
From: nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lysator.liu.se
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Message-ID: <009CA349.8721D96E.1@geysir.rydnet.lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: hekla.free-vms.org
>The procedure is to talk with me or Robert Nydahl
><nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lyator.liu.se>
I'd just wanted to point out at that mailing me is a bad idea right now. I'm
usually away during weekdays and I've just recently starting to catch-up reading
my email.
I hope to take a more active part after 1:st of September when I start working
on my new job at Digital (Soon to be Compaq). But on the other hand I guess
I'll take some time before I'm settled in at Digital (Soon to be Compaq). I
just keep my fingers crossed that I won't be away from home as much as I am
today.
>The environment on it is almost ready. It's pretty much a bare-bones
>VMS machine, with not too many extra utilities on, but I'm figuring that
>will change with time.
I guess you'll tell me when you consider it ready and fit for duty, right?
Also, I'm sorry to point out that the name hekla.free-vms.org might have to be
removed and you'll have to learn to use hekla.rydnet.lysator.liu.se instead.
Some new stupid naming-rules was just invented here. There should be local
dns-names only or you'll loose your connection. But I'm working on getting a
permission to use hekla.free-vms.org anyway. Now how they're going to check-up
on all machines here beats me... but I like to play it safe anyway.
/Robert Nydahl
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Archive-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:30:24 +0200
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:30:12 +0200
Message-ID: <8524-Tue04Aug1998173012+0200-levitte@lp.se>
From: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <levitte@lp.se>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
In-Reply-To: <009CA349.8721D96E.1@geysir.rydnet.lysator.liu.se> (nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lysator.liu.se)
Subject: Re: hekla.free-vms.org
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From: nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lysator.liu.se
>The procedure is to talk with me or Robert Nydahl
><nydahl@geysir.rydnet.lyator.liu.se>
>The environment on it is almost ready. It's pretty much a bare-bones
>VMS machine, with not too many extra utilities on, but I'm figuring that
>will change with time.
I guess you'll tell me when you consider it ready and fit for duty, right?
Yup. I'll probably get some time over this coming weekend...
Also, I'm sorry to point out that the name hekla.free-vms.org might
have to be removed and you'll have to learn to use
hekla.rydnet.lysator.liu.se instead.
Oh, so that silliness got through... OK, I've made the change in the
pages, removed the A record, but added a TXT record telling what has
happened (com'on, they can't forbid me to inform, can they?) (and ok, so
only the DNS aware people will see it, but it's better than nothing).
Some new stupid naming-rules was just invented here.
Is there a pointer to appropriate info somewhere?
--
R Levitte, Levitte Programming; Spannv. 38, I; S-168 35 Bromma; SWEDEN
Tel: +46-8-26 52 47; Cell: +46-708-20 09 64; Fax: +46-708-20 06 13
PGP key fingerprint = A6 96 C0 34 3A 96 AA 6C B0 D5 9A DF D2 E9 9C 65
Check http://richard.levitte.org/ for my public key. bastard@bofh.se
"price, performance, quality. Choose any two you like"
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Archive-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:25:34 +0200
From: thomasgd@omc.bt.co.uk (Greg Thomas)
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Free MAC OS?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:25:13 GMT
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I thought those listening might be interested, but from wired.com ...
"A group of Apple developers, concerned that boom times for the Linux
operating system could deal a harsh blow to the Macintosh, is lobbying
Apple Computer to liberate a chunk of its secret source code. "
=46ull story at
http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/1434=
2.html
Greg
--=20
E&OE
My opinions, not those of my employer
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Archive-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 03:09:32 +0200
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:09:18 -0700 (PDT)
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To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: mkfs
This list has fallen silent once again. So, I thought I'd stir things up a
bit with a little piece of info. that came to my attention (albeit via junk
e-mail):
Check out the following URL:
http://www.of.org/rhaptel/news.html
Apparently, the Mach kernel underlies "Rhapsody", Apple's new MAC OS. This
group os advocating the porting of MAC OS X to Intel as an on-going product,
while (apparently) Apples current plans are to do a one-time port for their
V1.0, but no more.
I dunno. What do y'all think?
...and what, if anything, is happenning with FreeVMS?
(No, I haven't learned C yet - don't look for TYPE (including /TAIL) anytime
soon!)
David J. Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
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Archive-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 19:04:09 +0200
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:03:53 -0400 (EDT)
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To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: noahp@altavista.net (Noah Paul)
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Hello?
This list is falling silent again ...
Regards,
Noah Paul <noahp@tiac.net>
``Most advice is given for nothing. It's worth it.''