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Archive-Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:39:56 +0200
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:39:47 +0200
Message-ID: <7211-Fri02Apr1999063947+0200-levitte@lp.se>
From: Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <levitte@lp.se>
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Subject: Happy Easter!
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Hi,
Happy Easter to you all.
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Archive-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:52:52 +0200
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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 14:56:21 -0700
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
From: noahp@altavista.net
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Do we need to use ODSx for Free-VMS?
In-Reply-To: <0003237A.C21492@advocatehealth.com>
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Really? It does? I don't see any digital signature ...
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Archive-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:44:35 +0200
Message-ID: <910612C07BCAD1119AF40000F86AF0D802CCDB44@kaoexc4.kao.dec.com>
From: Kerry Main <Kerry.Main@digital.com>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: "'Free-VMS@lp.se'" <Free-VMS@lp.se>
Subject: RE: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:44:24 -0400
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Apologies for dropping in on the newsgroup, but just to clarify the attached
...
Would any sane company abandon a product that last year brought in $5B in
HW, SW and services revenue ?
http://www.openvms.digital.com/COMMIT_OPENVMS_UNIX_MESSAGING.HTML
Would the 1st new stock exchange in 25 years choose OpenVMS as its platform
if it did not have a long term committment?
http://www.compaq.com/newsroom/pr/1998/pr101198a.html
Bottom line is that OpenVMS is going to be around for a long time.
As pointed out in this article
<http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,396808,00.html>, other OS's
are beginning to realize the importance of availability and OpenVMS
clustering is still the highwater mark that other OS's are trying to reach.
Features such as 96 node with load balancing support, full cluster file
system, distributed lock manager, load balancing between systems in
different datacenters, dynamic drag-n-drop resources between OS instances on
the same physical box, clustering between OS instances on the same box,
NT/Win965 mgmt GUI's etc are all just geams in the eyes of most of the
competition.
Reference:
http://www.openvms.digital.com/affinity/galaxy.html
And lots more cooking ..
:-)
Kerry Main
Senior Consultant,
Compaq Canada Inc.
Voice : 613-591-5078 / 621-5078 (dtn)
Fax : 613-591-5113
Email : kerry.main@compaq.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Paul [mailto:noahp@altavista.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 4:30 PM
To: 'Free-VMS@lp.se'
Subject: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
But does Compaq care anymore? It's fairly obvious that they intend to
do away with VMS and VAX in the near future. (Yet another reason why
FreeVMS is an important project)
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Teijo Forsell wrote:
> > (Legend has it that this is already available - in
> > compiler/assembler listing form on the source CD, sans
> > LMF and certain other key pieces.)
>
>That should be no legend. The listings CD set is orderable. However, as
once
>said here, it is not wise to examine commercial source code before starting
>to write FreeWare source code which is supposed to supersede the commercial
>source code. That will make the legal issues more difficult to handle if
>something turns up.
>
>
>Regards,
>Teijo (also expressing strictly personal opinions)
>
--------------
Regards,
Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
PGP Public Key: http://gandolf.lincnet.org/~noahp/Public_Key
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Archive-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:56:02 +0200
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:40:50 -0500
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From: David.Dachtera@advocatehealth.com (David Dachtera)
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re[2]: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
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Hello, Kerry,
Yes, everything you cited is true.
So why is it that when we go to presentations by Compaq
(Decpaq, Comgital, or whatever), all we hear is "NT, NT,
NT, NT" or "Tru64, Tru64, Tru64, Tru64" and now even
"Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux", and scarcely a word about
OVMS? ...it's usually only mentioned in passing, in
response to a query from the floor, "Well, what about
OpenVMS?", to which the response is usually a paltry,
"Yes, OpenVMS is supported also."
If you want to quash the rumors, it's going to take a
*LOT* of proactive marketing (never Digital's strong
suit, apparently not Compaq's, either).
Relegating OpenVMS to the "high-end, Enterprise class"
market will do nothing to quell these rumors, either.
Almost since the dawn of the MicroVAX, VMS has been
scalable from the desktop to the datacenter. VMS pricing,
on the other end, never has scaled on a level even
approaching that of VMS itself.
I am very sure that I can help with Compaq/Digital's
OpenVMS marketing woes. Please contact me directly. You
can find my phone number, etc. (USA) on my web site.
Follow the "Contact Us" link from any of the newer (white
background) pages, including the home page (the URL is
found below).
Attendees at DECUS Providence, RI, USA should look for a
short (5 foot, 8 inches) pudgy guy with light brown (and
some grey) hair wearing a badge that says "GTDPD!" (Get
The Damn Price Down!)
Supporters of Affordable OpenVMS can take a sneak preview
of the "Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page" at
http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/vms/soho/ There's even
a message board!
David J. Dachtera,
dba DJE Systems
http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: RE: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
Author: Free-VMS@lp.se at PO_EXTERNET
Date: 4/6/99 6:44 AM
Apologies for dropping in on the newsgroup, but just to clarify the attached
...
Would any sane company abandon a product that last year brought in $5B in
HW, SW and services revenue ?
http://www.openvms.digital.com/COMMIT_OPENVMS_UNIX_MESSAGING.HTML
Would the 1st new stock exchange in 25 years choose OpenVMS as its platform
if it did not have a long term committment?
http://www.compaq.com/newsroom/pr/1998/pr101198a.html
Bottom line is that OpenVMS is going to be around for a long time.
As pointed out in this article
<http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,396808,00.html>, other OS's
are beginning to realize the importance of availability and OpenVMS
clustering is still the highwater mark that other OS's are trying to reach.
Features such as 96 node with load balancing support, full cluster file
system, distributed lock manager, load balancing between systems in
different datacenters, dynamic drag-n-drop resources between OS instances on
the same physical box, clustering between OS instances on the same box,
NT/Win965 mgmt GUI's etc are all just geams in the eyes of most of the
competition.
Reference:
http://www.openvms.digital.com/affinity/galaxy.html
And lots more cooking ..
:-)
Kerry Main
Senior Consultant,
Compaq Canada Inc.
Voice : 613-591-5078 / 621-5078 (dtn)
Fax : 613-591-5113
Email : kerry.main@compaq.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Paul [mailto:noahp@altavista.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 4:30 PM
To: 'Free-VMS@lp.se'
Subject: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
But does Compaq care anymore? It's fairly obvious that they intend to
do away with VMS and VAX in the near future. (Yet another reason why
FreeVMS is an important project)
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Teijo Forsell wrote:
> > (Legend has it that this is already available - in
> > compiler/assembler listing form on the source CD, sans
> > LMF and certain other key pieces.)
>
>That should be no legend. The listings CD set is orderable. However, as
once
>said here, it is not wise to examine commercial source code before starting
>to write FreeWare source code which is supposed to supersede the commercial
>source code. That will make the legal issues more difficult to handle if
>something turns up.
>
>
>Regards,
>Teijo (also expressing strictly personal opinions)
>
--------------
Regards,
Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
PGP Public Key: http://gandolf.lincnet.org/~noahp/Public_Key
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Archive-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:11:39 +0200
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:11:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
In-Reply-To: <0003E2AF.C21492@advocatehealth.com>
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On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, David Dachtera wrote:
> Hello, Kerry,
>
> Yes, everything you cited is true.
>
> So why is it that when we go to presentations by Compaq
> (Decpaq, Comgital, or whatever), all we hear is "NT, NT,
> NT, NT" or "Tru64, Tru64, Tru64, Tru64" and now even
> "Linux, Linux, Linux, Linux", and scarcely a word about
> OVMS? ...it's usually only mentioned in passing, in
> response to a query from the floor, "Well, what about
> OpenVMS?", to which the response is usually a paltry,
> "Yes, OpenVMS is supported also."
>
Which is a very good reason to port OVMS to other
platforms and push for it's use by others (apparently
this honor falls upon Us).
>
> If you want to quash the rumors, it's going to take a
> *LOT* of proactive marketing (never Digital's strong
> suit, apparently not Compaq's, either).
>
Amen.
>
> Relegating OpenVMS to the "high-end, Enterprise class"
> market will do nothing to quell these rumors, either.
> Almost since the dawn of the MicroVAX, VMS has been
> scalable from the desktop to the datacenter. VMS pricing,
> on the other end, never has scaled on a level even
> approaching that of VMS itself.
>
> I am very sure that I can help with Compaq/Digital's
> OpenVMS marketing woes. Please contact me directly. You
> can find my phone number, etc. (USA) on my web site.
> Follow the "Contact Us" link from any of the newer (white
> background) pages, including the home page (the URL is
> found below).
>
> Attendees at DECUS Providence, RI, USA should look for a
> short (5 foot, 8 inches) pudgy guy with light brown (and
> some grey) hair wearing a badge that says "GTDPD!" (Get
> The Damn Price Down!)
>
> Supporters of Affordable OpenVMS can take a sneak preview
> of the "Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page" at
> http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/vms/soho/ There's even
> a message board!
>
> David J. Dachtera,
> dba DJE Systems
> http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/
>
>
By the way, I've been working on a cryptographic hash function. If
you're interested, http://146.115.234.58/~noahp/hash.
____________________________
Regards,
Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
PGP Public Key: finger noahp@www.ultranet.com
``A distributed system is one on which I can't do my work because some
machine I never heard of has crashed'' -- Leslie Lamport, author of LaTeX
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Archive-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:59:11 +0200
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:58:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Compaq and VMS (was RE: Speculation)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990410220813.5850B-100000@merlin>
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>
>By the way, I've been working on a cryptographic hash function. If
>you're interested, http://146.115.234.58/~noahp/hash.
that is, hash.c
>____________________________
>Regards,
>Noah Paul <noahp@altavista.net>
>PGP Public Key: finger noahp@www.ultranet.com
>
>``A distributed system is one on which I can't do my work because some
> machine I never heard of has crashed'' -- Leslie Lamport, author of LaTeX
>
>
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Archive-Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:27:36 +0200
Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.19990422203745.357704aa@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:37:45
To: "Free VMS Mailing List" <Free-VMS@lp.se>
From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: Free-VMS@lp.se
Subject: Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page
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Affordable OpenVMS now has an Unofficial Home Page and even a Message
Board!
Visit http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/vms/soho/
Share the dream! Support Affordable OpenVMS!
David J. Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/