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Archive-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:58:45 +0200
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:55:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Cook <COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
Subject: Re: FTP proxies don't seem to work
In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:45:46 -0400 (EDT)" <01JR78OZ1PNW2UDUOT@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
To: George Cook <COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
CC: Brian Tillman <tillman@swdev.si.com>, VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG, COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu
Message-ID: <01JTG8ZPABAW2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
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>>>If Lynx had ftp proxy support I could borrow its code, but Lynx doesn't
>>appear to
>>>support it either.

>>Works for me.  I can use ftp://... URLs in lynx through the same proxy
>>server.

What I need at this point are packet traces of Lynx working and
Mosaic failing.  If you have MultiNet, TCPDUMP/TCPVIEW do a good
job.

>The problem is that there is zero indication of proxy support in
>the Lynx and Mosaic ftp modules, which means that the support is
>hidden somewhere else.

From what I can tell, ftp proxy servers are more transparent than
http servers, so there is little if any code specifically to handle
it.

>It may be some time before I get a chance to trace the code manually.

Looking at the code didn't pan out.  At this point I suspect a minor
bug which will be impossible to find by just looking at the code.


George
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Archive-Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:18:09 +0200
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:16:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Cook <COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
Subject: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
CC: COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu
Message-ID: <01JTL7S6K92S2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
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Release 3.6-2 of VMS Mosaic is now available at

    ftp://alpha.wvnet.edu/mosaic/mosaic3_6-2.zip

It is not a complete kit and must be unzipped on top of 3.6 (or 3.6-1).
All previous patches to 3.6 are included.

It includes the following changes since release 3.6-1:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 o Added file LOCAL.CONFIG for local configuration changes
 o Added preference setting for the image delay file name
 o Added support for 8 bit (or less) uncompressed BMP images
 o Changed to save binary files as fixed 512 instead of stream LF
 o URL: window is now updated before page finishes loading
 o Improved cookie support
 o Improved font size and color support in tables
 o Fixed News XOVER support
 o Various bug and memory leak fixes
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


George
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Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:01:15 +0200
Message-ID: <209801c01372$b97ab4c0$76041c7e@GR383232>
From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman@swdev.si.com>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
To: <VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG>
References: <01JTL7S6K92S2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Re: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:41:42 -0400
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I downloaded and built the new Mosaic.  It runs well enough, but some of the
data on our internal home page doesn't show up.  In particular, links that
are formed like this:

<FONT color=#000000><SMALL><STRONG>&gt;<SMALL> </SMALL>

<A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="http://dolphin.si.com/pdm/shopfloor.html">View PDM PDF
Files</STRONG></A></SMALL>
<BR><EM><SMALL>Controlled Drawings and Documents</SMALL></FONT><BR>
<SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">
<STRONG><SMALL><FONT color=#400040>&gt; </FONT></EM>

<A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/Road%20Warriors/roadwarrior.htm">Road
Warriors</A></SMALL>
<BR></STRONG></SPAN>
<SMALL><FONT color=#000000><EM>Information for Business Travel</EM></FONT>
<STRONG><BR>
<FONT color=#400040><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb
255,255,255)">
<EM>&gt; </EM>

<A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="z800/">Proposal Status</A></SMALL>
<BR></STRONG>
<SMALL><EM>Restricted Access for Proposal Teams</EM></SMALL></SPAN></FONT>

just don't appear.

Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com
Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com
3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent
Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"
       This opinion doesn't represent that of my company


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Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:01:18 +0200
Message-ID: <209901c01373$09c36120$76041c7e@GR383232>
From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman@swdev.si.com>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
To: <VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG>
References: <01JTL7S6K92S2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Re: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:43:57 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, the following is supposed to have a box around it, but no box appears
and some of the links are invisible.

<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD width=255 bgColor=#ffffff>
<P align=left><IMG height=30 src="images1/search.gif" width=250
border=0></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width=255 bgColor=#ffffff>
<FORM action=http://search.si.com:8080/query.html method=get>
<DIV align=center>
<CENTER>
<TABLE
style="BORDER-RIGHT: thin solid; BORDER-TOP: thin solid; BORDER-LEFT: thin
solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: thin solid"
cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="99%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD align=middle width="100%"><FONT color=#400040><STRONG><A
style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/Other%20useful%20internet%20sites/search
engines.html">Ways
to Search the Internet</A></STRONG></FONT></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle width="100%"><STRONG><A
href="http://www.altavista.com"></A><A
href="http://www.infoseek.com"></A><A
href="http://www.yahoo.com"></A></STRONG></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD align=middle width="100%">
<DIV align=center>
<CENTER>
<P><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/usefulsites.html"><FONT
color=#400040><STRONG>Links to useful Internet
Sites</STRONG></FONT></A></P></CENTER></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR align=middle>
<TD vAlign=center align=middle width="100%" height=35>
<DIV align=center>
<CENTER>
<P><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
href="http://search.si.com:8080/"><FONT color=#400040><STRONG>IMS Internal
Intranet Search</STRONG></FONT></A></P></CENTER></DIV></TD></TR>
<TR align=middle>
<TD vAlign=top align=middle width="100%" height=23>
<DIV align=left>
<P><INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial Narrow" maxLength=200
size=16 name=qt> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: small;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial Narrow" type=submit value=Submit>
</P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></DIV></FORM></TD></TR>
<TR align=middle>
<TD width=428 background=images1/blue.gif height=27>
<FORM action=http://dolphin.si.com/cgi-bin/maps/phonemailstop.cgi
method=get><STRONG><SMALL><FONT color=#ffffff>
<P>Search For Phone Numbers</FONT></SMALL></STRONG></P>
<DIV align=right>
<P><INPUT maxLength=40 size=18 name=lastname><INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma" type=submit value=Lookup name=B1>
</P></DIV></FORM></TD></TR></TBODY>


Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com
Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com
3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent
Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"
       This opinion doesn't represent that of my company



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Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:58:19 +0200
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Cook <COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
Subject: Re: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:41:42 -0400" <209801c01372$b97ab4c0$76041c7e@GR383232>
To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
CC: COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu
Message-ID: <01JTMJAP1FTU2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
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>I downloaded and built the new Mosaic.  It runs well enough, but some of the
>data on our internal home page doesn't show up.  In particular, links that
>are formed like this:

I suspect you cut out too much (or you have changed the browser
color defaults) because it works here.  Given that Mosaic does not
support style sheets, the links will be displayed with the Mosaic
default link color (distributed as bright blue) on the default
background color (distributed as a light bluish gray).  The non-link
text is black as specified in the font tag.


George

><FONT color=#000000><SMALL><STRONG>&gt;<SMALL> </SMALL>

><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="http://dolphin.si.com/pdm/shopfloor.html">View PDM PDF
>Files</STRONG></A></SMALL>
><BR><EM><SMALL>Controlled Drawings and Documents</SMALL></FONT><BR>
><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)">
><STRONG><SMALL><FONT color=#400040>&gt; </FONT></EM>

><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/Road%20Warriors/roadwarrior.htm">Road
>Warriors</A></SMALL>
><BR></STRONG></SPAN>
><SMALL><FONT color=#000000><EM>Information for Business Travel</EM></FONT>
><STRONG><BR>
><FONT color=#400040><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb
>255,255,255)">
><EM>&gt; </EM>

><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="z800/">Proposal Status</A></SMALL>
><BR></STRONG>
><SMALL><EM>Restricted Access for Proposal Teams</EM></SMALL></SPAN></FONT>

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Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:01:00 +0200
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:03:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: George Cook <COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
Subject: Re: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:43:57 -0400" <209901c01373$09c36120$76041c7e@GR383232>
To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
CC: COOK@wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu
Message-ID: <01JTMJDVFMR02Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
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>Also, the following is supposed to have a box around it, but no box appears
>and some of the links are invisible.

This is also a style sheet issue.  Given "border=0", Mosaic correctly
displays the table without a border.


George

><TBODY>
><TR>
><TD width=255 bgColor=#ffffff>
><P align=left><IMG height=30 src="images1/search.gif" width=250
>border=0></P></TD></TR>
><TR>
><TD vAlign=top width=255 bgColor=#ffffff>
><FORM action=http://search.si.com:8080/query.html method=get>
><DIV align=center>
><CENTER>
><TABLE
>style="BORDER-RIGHT: thin solid; BORDER-TOP: thin solid; BORDER-LEFT: thin
>solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: thin solid"
>cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="99%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0>
><TBODY>
><TR>
><TD align=middle width="100%"><FONT color=#400040><STRONG><A
>style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/Other%20useful%20internet%20sites/search
>engines.html">Ways
>to Search the Internet</A></STRONG></FONT></TD></TR>
><TR>
><TD align=middle width="100%"><STRONG><A
>href="http://www.altavista.com"></A><A
>href="http://www.infoseek.com"></A><A
>href="http://www.yahoo.com"></A></STRONG></TD></TR>
><TR>
><TD align=middle width="100%">
><DIV align=center>
><CENTER>
><P><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="http://ims-int.si.com/library/usefulsites.html"><FONT
>color=#400040><STRONG>Links to useful Internet
>Sites</STRONG></FONT></A></P></CENTER></DIV></TD></TR>
><TR align=middle>
><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="100%" height=35>
><DIV align=center>
><CENTER>
><P><A style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255)"
>href="http://search.si.com:8080/"><FONT color=#400040><STRONG>IMS Internal
>Intranet Search</STRONG></FONT></A></P></CENTER></DIV></TD></TR>
><TR align=middle>
><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="100%" height=23>
><DIV align=left>
><P><INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: Arial Narrow" maxLength=200
>size=16 name=qt> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: small;
>FONT-FAMILY: Arial Narrow" type=submit value=Submit>
></P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER></DIV></FORM></TD></TR>
><TR align=middle>
><TD width=428 background=images1/blue.gif height=27>
><FORM action=http://dolphin.si.com/cgi-bin/maps/phonemailstop.cgi
>method=get><STRONG><SMALL><FONT color=#ffffff>
><P>Search For Phone Numbers</FONT></SMALL></STRONG></P>
><DIV align=right>
><P><INPUT maxLength=40 size=18 name=lastname><INPUT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px;
>FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma" type=submit value=Lookup name=B1>
></P></DIV></FORM></TD></TR></TBODY>


>Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com
>Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com
>3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent
>Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"
>       This opinion doesn't represent that of my company



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Archive-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:12:35 +0200
Message-ID: <21e401c01388$8539c690$76041c7e@GR383232>
From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman@swdev.si.com>
Reply-To: VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG
To: <VMS-MOSAIC@LEVITTE.ORG>
References: <01JTL7S6K92S2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> <01JTMJAP1FTU2Y703V@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
Subject: Re: Mosaic V3.6-2 now available
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:17:43 -0400
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>I suspect you cut out too much (or you have changed the browser
>color defaults) because it works here.

It's possible I cut out too much.  I merely highlighted the section of the
page that didn't display correctly and, using an MSIE enhancement called
"View Partial Source", I cut and pasted the result.  I haven't changed the
default colors as far as I know.  I copied MOSAIC.DAT_COLOR (with a couple
of changes for our local environment to change the focus policy, home page,
and proxy file locations) to DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:MOSAIC.DAT.

There is one change that has to do with fonts that I made as a result of
earlier discussions on this list.  I added

Mosaic*supSubFont: -adobe-times-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1

to the MOSAIC.DAT file, but I don't remember why.

Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com
Smiths Industries, Inc.                   tillman at swdev.si.com
3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent
Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"
       This opinion doesn't represent that of my company