Article 16676 of soc.genealogy.medieval: Path: news.kth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!news-ge.switch.ch!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!winter.news.erols.com!news From: wrei@127.0.0.1 (William Addams Reitwiesner) Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval,alt.fan.wodehouse Subject: Re: Wodehouse's ancestry? Followup-To: alt.fan.wodehouse Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 11:04:30 GMT Organization: WARGS Lines: 60 Message-ID: <341a6919.2587571@news.erols.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spg-tnt2s86.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 13 Sep 1997 11:08:23 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/16.339 Xref: news.kth.se soc.genealogy.medieval:16676 alt.fan.wodehouse:14737 rmckenzi@recycle.spam.dti.net (Louise B. Minetti) wrote: >please pardon the cross-post, but i thought in this case it was both >relevant and helpful. i'm trying to find out if i'm related to the British >author Pelham Grenville Wodehouse (1881-1975), nicknamed "Plum". he was >knighted by the Queen in 1975, a few weeks before his death, but several >things lead me to suspect him of noble origin. > >first of all, does anyone from a.f.w. have a biography or other source that >gives his parents' names and/or anything about his ancestry? secondly, for >s.g.m., i do know that his siblings were named Ernest Armine, Philip >Peverel, and Richard Lancelot [Wodehouse], so i'm using their middle names >(with the obvious exception of Lancelot), including both of Plum's names, >as clues to which families he might be descended from. Burke's _Dormant >Peerages_, 1883 edition, gives a William Armine (1622- ) who married Anne >Crane and had Anne Armine, who m.(1) Sir Thomas Wodehouse, Knight, by whom >she had a daughter (not named) and Sir John Wodehouse, Bart., of Kimberley, >"grandfather of the 1st Lord Wodehouse" (p. 11).[1] Burke lists both >Granville and Grenville, as well as Pelham (under Hobbes-Pelham), but no >Peverel - i assume it's in the _Extant Peerage_, can anyone check? P. G. Wodehouse is descended from a younger brother of the 1st Lord Wodehouse. >not only is it (in my mind anyway) particularly interesting to research the >ancestors of famous authors with the aim to finding a common link, but in >the case of old Plum it is even more relevant considering the fact that >most of the characters in his books are nobility, some of which have the >surnames of actual ancestors of mine - Basset, for instance.[2] > > any info would be most appreciated, > > - brookes > > >[1] - Anne Armine m.(2) Thomas Lord Crewe, and had a Jemima Crewe, who >married Henry de Grey, Duke of Kent, according to Burke. but i seem to >remember someone saying, in response to my query about Edward Montagu, the >Earl of Sandwich, that he married a Jemima Crew. could they be the same? Jemima Crewe, Duchess of Kent, was a niece of Jemima Crewe, Countess of Sandwich. >[2] - somewhat related is the question of Brit actor Ralph Fiennes, whose >full surname is Twistleton-Fiennes (and who was asked how he felt about >sharing part of his name with Pongo Twistleton-Twistleton, but had no >comment) - does anyone know his pedigree? Ralph Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes is a descendant of the Lords Saye and Sele. Followups set to William Addams Reitwiesner wrei@erols.com "Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc."